Who was Salome?

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Who was Salome?

#1 Postby sevensophies » Fri May 16, 2008 9:15 pm

In Tau Malachi's book about St. Mary Magdalene, 3 Salomes are mentioned; Salome The Elder, Salome The Wise and Salome The Maiden.

I have also learned through a bit of research that The Christ may have had a sister named Salome.

Which of these was Mary Magdalene's good friend?

What can be said of her and the others?

Did Christ indeed have a sister named Salome?

I would appreciate any information that can be presented regarding this topic.

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#2 Postby Tau Malachi » Sat May 17, 2008 8:43 am

Salutations in the Light of the Messiah!

Greetings and welcome to the internet community of Sophia Fellowship and Ecclesia Pistis Sophia.

I’m not familiar with the legend of Adonai Yeshua (“Lord Jesus”) having a sister named Salome as a disciple – in our oral tradition none of the women named Salome are said to be relatives of Yeshua.

Salome the Wise is a personification of Mother Sophia, or Imma Shekinah (Mother Shekinah), parallel to the enigmatic saying from the Gospel of St. Thomas that assumes the form of a dialogue between Yeshua and Salome – as such, she personifies a deeper part of our soul in communion with the Messiah.

Salome the Elder is taken to be the Salome mentioned in Scripture as a women disciple of the Master, traditionally she has been identified as the wife of Zebedee and mother of St. James, son of Zebedee; she is said to have a very close friendship with Mother Miriam, the mother of Yeshua, and her way is said to be akin to that of the Holy Mother – an energetic transmission by way of mere presence and environment rather than words and discourse. According to the tradition, when people had questions and they visited the Holy Mother their questions would be answered inwardly in her presence – likewise, naturally and spontaneously needs were fulfilled and prayers were answered in her presence; much the same is said of Salome the Elder in our oral tradition – she knew the way of the Holy Mother most intimately. This, of course, personifies and reflects our innate wisdom nature – the innate capacity of the deeper parts of our soul to know and understand the mysteries, to have direct knowledge of God and to experience union with God.

Now, Salome the Maiden is a mysterious and enigmatic figure, much like the unnamed young man who shows up around the circle of Adonai Yeshua in the Gospel of St. Mark; in our oral tradition, like this young fellow, she just shows up and nothing is said regarding personal history – reminding us that grasping at name and form, and personal history, binds us to the surface consciousness and the ego.

Indeed, the lack of any worldly background for Salome the Maiden is very significant – for she is the inmost disciple of Magdalene, suggesting that the deepest knowledge and understanding of the Holy Bride does not come from any outward or historical search, and cannot be acquired while we remain bound to the surface consciousness; rather, to know the Holy Bride and the Messiah we must let go of grasping at name and form, personal history and the world, and instead cleave to the inner parts of the soul, which are in God, the True Light.

Salome the Maiden is a woman exactly as Adonai Yeshua describes as one who is reborn of the Spirit – she comes from nowhere like the wind, and she is going nowhere, one does not know from where she comes or where she is going, for she follows in the Way of the Holy Spirit. In this regard she personifies the ideal disciple free from grasping and concerns of the world – living for the sake of heaven.

In Gnostic stories and legends, more than anything literal or historical, it is spiritual teachings and practices that are portrayed, along with the Gnostic experience, the enlightenment experience – life for the sake of heaven, not the darkness of matter and this world, this shadow land. It is with these eyes that we must look at the stories and the characters that appear in them – seeking the spiritual knowledge, understanding and wisdom they offer.

Now, in the three women named “Salome,” of course, we are presented with an image of the three phases of the Divine and Sacred Feminine – maid, mother and crone; it implies the fullness of the feminine experience of life, the Realm of Becoming.

The maiden as the inmost disciple of the Magdalene implies all of our energetic and creative potential taken up by the Holy Bride, our life’s energy rooted in her, the Shekinah of Messiah.

According to the legends, Salome the Maiden becomes the divine consort of St. Michael – the son of Lord Yeshua and Lady Mirya; as in well known, St. Michael personifies the Light Transmission that flows through the Gnostic Apostolic Succession. Thus, when our life is rooted in the Shekinah of Messiah, the Holy Bride, we experience this Gnostic and Light Transmission, and the Light Transmission flows with, in and through us, and might even become manifest as us.

She is also said to take up the lineage of Gnostic Apostolic Succession after Lady Mirya – a woman successor in lineage continuing to impart the mysteries of the Holy Bride and the Messiah, a deeply esoteric lineage of the Christian stream.

We know that Salome personifies Hokmah-Sophia-Wisdom, our innate wisdom nature, and in “Salome” as the successor of Magdalene is the suggestion that this lineage of the Magdalene, even when the golden thread appears to be lost, may emanate again or be “rediscovered” – hence, that it cannot be driven out of the world, for its knowledge and understanding is an expression of our innate wisdom nature, our soul as it is in God.

In this regard we are reminded of what St. Paul has to say about original Christianity or the “Jesus movement”; when it is called a religious sect – the “Nazarenes,” by Pharisees and Sadducees bringing false criminal accusations against him before Roman authorities, St. Paul swiftly corrects them, asserting it is *not a religious sect* that he follows, but that rather he follows the Way.

As surely as an oral tradition and spiritual transmission could swiftly vanish from this world if and when there is no one to receive it in a new generation, so too with the creation of religious sects, creeds and doctrines the true golden thread of an energetic transmission and self-realization can become buried and lost – yet this Way is in the Spirit, and it is a Living Presence and Power, and it is innate to the inmost part of our soul, our Wisdom Nature. Thus, when lost, it will be found again.

It is very interesting, for only in modern times for the sake of the outsider and newcomer is a name given to our lineage and tradition (“Sophian Gnostic” – previously it had no name; initiates of the tradition simply viewed themselves as spiritual or mystical people following in the Way, they would not have call themselves “Gnostics” and only for the sake of others would have used the term “Christian.”

Although often, outsiders might speak of “Gnostic Christianity” as another sect or religion of Christianity, like the Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant sects, this may entirely miss the real point of what “Gnosticism” actually is. Essentially, religion comes to its climax and culmination where mysticism begins – the great rub between the “orthodox” and “gnostic” church was the inclination to form a sect, a manmade institution, with fixed creed and doctrine among the “orthodox,” while the “gnostic,” the spiritually and mystically inclined, sought only to follow in the Way, seeing all teachings and practices as a provisional vehicle for an experiential realization, direct knowledge and understanding of the Truth and Light, (enlightenment or gnosis).

This distinction is so very simple, and so very subtle, that most often it is not understood by many modern individuals approaching “Gnosticism.” Whatever “Gnosticism” is, it is an experience of Light Transmission and the unfolding of the enlightenment experience – deep spiritual and mystical experience of God, the True Light, the Way; in truth, it isn’t any creed or doctrine, but rather it is an experience and the knowledge, understanding and wisdom that can only come by way of direct experience.

In religion people believe – they believe in the creed and doctrine; but in the Way, as described by the original apostles, such as St. Paul, people experience a Living Presence and Power, and belief or faith assumes a very different context and meaning in this experience.

I mention all of this, because there is something of this Wisdom of the Way in the person of Salome the Maiden – the inmost disciple of the Holy Bride, the Shekinah of the Messiah, is a follower of the Way, not a religious sect.

There is something to be said of a youth who comes to follow in the Way so early in life – a spiritual prodigy such as Salome the Maiden. Obviously, this young woman is a soul of a very lofty grade, an “old soul” as some might call it; there is the implication of various gradations in the development and evolution of souls in the tales of this maiden, as well as a statement of the true purpose of human incarnation – the realization of the soul as it is in God, the True Light. In terms of souls of very lofty grades, one gains a sense of the holy and enlightened ones who come for the spiritual labor of the Continuum of Light Transmission and harvest of souls – souls illumined or realized in previous incarnations in other world-systems, who enter into incarnation in the human life-wave on earth for the sake of the Light Transmission.

To draw near to such a great spiritual master as Lady Mirya or Lord Yeshua and serve to ground the Light Transmission flowing from them in this world would require a matrix of souls of higher grades – so it is in every generation, a matrix of souls of higher grades is formed as a vehicle and anchor of the Light Transmission (actually multiple matrixes are formed, for there are many streams).

In this regard, Salome the Maiden is a sharp contrast to Salome, the daughter of the wife of King Herod – she who, on behalf of her mother, requested the head of Yohanan the Baptist on a silver platter as the reward for her seductive dance that pleased the king; the completely righteous and completely wicked maidens share the same name – it a teaching on the mirror-like nature of the mind, soul or consciousness, the Ain Nature or Empty Nature, the same essence and nature within and behind the appearance of good and evil alike.

It would appear that all souls form a matrix for some kind of spiritual forces, whether divine, admixed or dark and hostile – yet all arises from the same ground, the Ain Nature.

In this we begin to gain some hint as to the meaning of “Salome” in the oral tradition, whether Salome the Wise, Salome the Elder or Salome the Maiden.

Who is/was Salome? She is the radiant energy of your own wisdom nature; and at the same time, she was a close disciple of the Magdalene whose life is in the Holy Bride and Messiah rather than this world – a true holy and illumined woman.

Something quite similar, of course, would be said of the Magdalene in the tradition…

May we be blessed recognize and realize our Wisdom Nature (Salome) and entertain the dance of the Shekinah of Messiah (Magdalene) – the spontaneous self-liberation of all arising just as it arises! Amen.

Blessings & shalom!
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#3 Postby sevensophies » Sat May 17, 2008 12:41 pm

Thank you Tau, for your prompt response to my question regarding Salome.

Thank you also for the gift of insight to which you have aspired throughout the years that guides you to participate in these forums with ardent insight and reverence to the True Light of Heaven, within and throughout.

Peace be with you as well and to all.

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