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Lost Souls

#1 Postby Anna » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:34 am

Greetings in the Light and Hope of Messiah!

There are, of course, karmic circumstances in which no spiritual assistance can be given because spirits and souls may be unwilling or unable to receive it, and therefore they must experience the full play of cause and effect (karma) that they have set into motion and with which they are self-identified and so bound up in. As an example, in circumstances of suicide at the outset of the afterlife experience there is little, if anything, that can be done, for the mentality of self-murder is one unwilling to receive help, unwilling to reach out, unwilling to light and life, and therefore usually unwilling to receive any spiritual assistance in the afterlife states for some time, instead becoming bound up in the astral earth - becoming an “earth bound spirit,” or possibly falling into a hungry ghost realm or hell realm, experiencing a reality corresponding with the negativity they cling to and identify themselves with. In such a circumstance, though we would love to assist a soul to move on we cannot, for they are completely unwilling, and until they are willing to return to God, the True Light, and willing to life, there is nothing that can be done. Such circumstance, just as with souls bound up in great darkness, great evil, unwilling and unable to ascend or move on to their next incarnation, it is a vision of great sorrow and pains the heart to encounter.

From this teaching it seems there is little or nothing that can be done for a person after they have rejected all help and even life itself by committing suicide. Are there any practices that can be taken up, at least in general, if not specifically, for such lost souls? The above teaching states that, in the case of these souls, assistance will not be received at least for some time. I am hearing that this state of non-receptivity may shift and that perhaps these souls will open to spiritual assistance at some time in the future.

I appreciate any insights and suggestions that may be offered here.
With gratitude,
Anna

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Re: Lost Souls

#2 Postby Tau Malachi » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:16 am

Blessings to you in the Holy Light of the Messiah!

When a person kills themselves the initial afterlife experiences is very unpleasant as the mentality at the time of their death is in a very negative, self-destructive state. Initial experiences in the afterlife are a terrible shock because, having sought to escape their pain, their sorrow and suffering in this way, what they have done only serves to increase and intensify it. Given the extremely negative mentality, and given this increase of suffering, at the outset such souls cannot receive the direct spiritual interventions that mystics and gnostics can offer, so we do not engage them. Those direct works of spiritual assistance could have something of an opposite effect, increasing the experience of suffering given the state of such souls in the afterlife.

We can, and do, however offer up general prayers, praying that the Holy One has mercy upon them and that they might be forgiven, as we do this for an individual whose situation has been brought to our attention, or an individual we have known, we will offer prayers for all souls that are caught up in this way, having killed themselves, praying for God’s mercy and forgiveness, and divine intervention, the intervention of heaven. We may even take up a general giving and receiving for such lost souls, for any who might be attracted and come, those in whom repentance is stirring. Indirectly these prayers, spiritual works, will be a blessing to the soul whose plight provoked them, and other spirits and souls may be blessed and redeemed in the process.

Yes, indeed, there is no such thing as eternal damnation, and therefore eventually souls will be stirred to repent, to return to God, the True Light, and they will desire life again, seeking to mend what has been done and find redemption. If and when we encounter such spirits or souls seeking redemption we do engage in direct spiritual actions for intervention, just as we would normally do for those who have died. In general, though, the intervention will be to guide the spirit and soul into a new incarnation within which their repentance, mending and redemption might be complete; generally we do not labor to uplift these souls into the heavens or the Supernal Abode because it is not time for them to ascend or be gathered in.

When a person has killed themselves, unless there is clear divine inspiration to do so sooner, we would usually wait one year before attempting direct spiritual intervention. Understand, nine months to a year is an experience of a much longer duration of time to souls in afterlife states, especially those in a severe afterlife experience. From our accounting of time, though, this is a range of ‘time’ in which most earthbound souls, and those bound up in the lower astral and such, become open and able to receive spiritual intercessions and interventions, wishing to repent and seek mending. Therefore, spirits, souls, that are very encumbered initially we will remember at the point of a year passing and see what might be done for them at that time.

Now, if a person were close to someone who killed themselves they might very well light prayer candles for them throughout the year, and hold them in their heart, and offer general prayers invoking God’s mercy and forgiveness, and their offering of prayer candles would be for all spirits and souls in this plight. In this way an initiate might gently labor in an indirect way, tending something of a continuum until the passing of a year. This, of course, assumes the initiate personally knew the individual and has an actual vital connection with that soul.

In closing I will share that we do engage in many prayers on behalf of the family and friends left behind, as this is a awful cause of suffering for them, a very hurtful way to lose someone you care about and love. Early on, this is the principle focus of our prayers and meditations, and there is a great need for it.

Shalom Aleichem!
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Re: Lost Souls

#3 Postby SorellaRoselyn » Tue May 07, 2019 8:00 am

Greetings in the light of the Lady.

I feel it is important to emphasise that the pain endured by a soul in the afterlife having killed themselves is by no means a punishment from God. Indeed, suicide is most commonly a result of depression, which is a a physical illness of the brain. It causes certain chemicals to be released and others to be closed off which greatly affects the moods of even the most brightest and compassionate of people. To say that a person suffering depression 'chooses' to be negative or harm themselves is as awful and incorrect as saying someone with dementia 'chooses' to forget their memories. I speak as someone who has intimate knowledge of this, having attempted suicide more than once and having had lost family members to one tragic case. While we were all caused great emotional turmoil by their passing, and there were moments of blame and resentment, we by no means continue to hold them to it or blame them, as they were just as much a victim. I can confirm that when depression is at its peak, when every thought in your head is manipulating you into being convinced this is the correct choice, it is as if someone else is in control of your hand. It's a terrible inner struggle to fight against it. And also, for myself and for many others, we do not see it as a selfish choice or one out of sheer stubbornness to 'accept help'. Instead we see it is as viewing ourselves as burdens on those we love and thus freeing them of our negative presence. When I last attempted suicide, I did not see myself as turning from God, but instead 'offering' myself to God when it seemed all else had failed. Praise be that the Holy Spirit came upon me and convinced me that it was not the way and I had been deceived.

Without a doubt, the pain of one suffering with depression to the point of suicide does not end with the act itself, and would be so much negative energy carried with them afterwards. But I feel that is wrong to say that they must pray for God's forgiveness and mercy for being a victim of something, for the most part, beyond their control. The divine spark of the Holy Daughter is with us throughout all our travels. She has vowed to be with us until the very last soul has been saved and brought into union with the One. A person who has been lost to suicide, yes, will face a further struggle up the mountain and will not escape their demons straight away. This is the great deception. However, for those who mourn for the souls of their loved ones or even for those who are suffering with this illness and the possibility they might not win the fight, I say to take heart. Mother's compassion is infinite, as is Her understanding for all that we endure. I could not believe that God's mercy and forgiveness would not be instant in cases of victims, even if it also means part of their afterlife is forgiving themselves after the knowledge of what they have done. That guilt and that regret would no doubt be the biggest torment they only need do to themselves. While a gnostic or mystic may not be able to connect with that soul to help immediately after the tragedy, that does not mean God is not immediately at hand helping redeem and save that soul, ready for them to turn to God again.

Praise to God Most High that, through the Divine Daughter who is with us all, there is always hope, and the longest night will never be eternal. She will comfort all those through the storm and guide them back, in time, to the True Light.

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Re: Lost Souls

#4 Postby Tau Malachi » Tue May 07, 2019 10:29 am

Grace and peace to you in the Holy Light of the Messiah!

It is not that the mercy and forgiveness of God Most High, the Most Gracious, Most Merciful, All-Forgiving, is not ever-present for all spirits and souls, in this life or in the hereafter, but rather that in the ignorance, and the self-grasping, desire and fear arising from it, in various karmic conditions many are unwilling or unable to receive it, they do not desire it. Many become bound up cleaving to shades and shadows, and false lights, and though God, the True Light, is present for them, and there is a ‘spark’ of that Infinite Light in them, they do not seek the True Light and will not open to that Holy Light and Spirit.

‘Invoking’ forgiveness, or ‘asking for’ forgiveness is simply desiring it and being receptive to it, opening to the Anointing - the Holy Light and Spirit; and the reception of forgiveness is in the forgiveness of others, as oneself has been forgiven. A significant barrier to souls' reception of forgiveness is in the unwillingness to forgive themselves and others.

As for ‘victims,’ perhaps at times. But then in the unenlightened condition, the ignorance, soul-streams have a karmic continuum from previous incarnations, and the karmic conditions that manifest in a present life are largely the expression of that karmic continuum. Here we may note that all individuals sharing in the same suffering do not make the same choices or take the same actions, and there are choices, and there is a play of cause and effect in them.

Do understand that a living tzaddik, a realized individual, having the capacity of the transference of consciousness into a body of light and so conscious mystical ascents of the soul into heavens and various realms of the inner dimensions, having the love and compassion of the Messiah would swiftly act to uplift and heal any spirit or soul, anywhere, at anytime, but the spirit, the soul, must be open and receptive to divine and spiritual intervention. There can be no forcing spiritual assistance upon spirits or souls, but they must desire it, they have choices to make.

A living tzaddik may very well abide in the actual realization of oneness with God Most High, the Absolute Light, but they do understand the play of karmic conditioning in the ignorance, the illusion of separation, and the relative reality of the law of cause and effect; no spirit or soul is actually separate and apart from God, but in effect, in the relative reality of their experience, souls do experience the pain of separation. Though we may abide in the Sanctuary of Grace, though we may have knowledge of our oneness with the Messiah in God Most High, there must be something of a play in skillful means in the labor of the harvest of souls, or the bringing of the light, healing and peace. An integral part of skillful means in the play of Light Transmission and active spiritual intervention is timing, knowledge of what is to be done, understanding of how it is to be done, and the wisdom of when it is to be done, all as the Holy Shekinah, Holy Spirit leads.

May the Virgin of Light shine brightly upon you and from within you this day, and may you abide in the good company of the Shekinah of Messiah - the Anointing! Amen.

Shalom Aleichem!
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